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Lost

@M64 Welcome! I'm having a hard time finding any reference to this one. If I had to guess, I'd guess that it was either a stand-alone offering or included on one of the non-magazine issue collections like the "Just for Fun" disk releases.

@rodneylives / @gumpy Any thoughts on this one? I've been searching but can't find it listed in any of the disks or copies of the Loadstar ads that I have in the collection.
 
Thanks for looking into it. I've been doing some additional checks in the GB64 database and a few more Polish titles surfaced without any associated "Loadstar #" issue:

Crazy the Mine Chaser - Mistakes Twice
Lingos
Mr. Ant
Plasm

There's also this odd one:
Nodule
where "Loadstar" appears in square brackets in the Publisher field, indicating that the game was intended to be released under the Loadstar label, but for some reason that didn't happen.

I'd love to know how these titles were distributed and whether the original releases can be preserved.
 
There are a number of games listed as Loadstar on Gamebase64 that have nothing to do with Loadstar.
 
Are you saying they were never released by Loadstar? Many of these games contain numerous references to Loadstar, for example "Lost" had a Loadstar tag on the title picture:

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and Loadstar was also referenced on the title screen:

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The same applies to "Crazy the Mine Chaser":

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And Mr. Ant:

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And Plasm:

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And Nodule:

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I can't imagine all those people just put Loadstar randomly there 🙂 Or is that some different Loadstar?
 
(ARGH, I entered this before but I wasn't logged in from my phone so the server swallowed the post!)

Loadstar copyrights are all either Softdisk Publishing or J&F Publishing. Anything that's just ©Loadstar is automatically suspect.
 
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Correct- just copyright LOADSTAR is suspicious. I have no idea what those games are but they were never published on Loadstar or a special collection disk.
 
It could have been a separate group that used the name, that maybe had never even heard of Softdisk's Loadstar. The name is a reference to the standard C64 load command, it's possible that someone else came up with it too.
 
Loadstar copyrights are all either Softdisk Publishing or J&F Publishing. Anything that's just ©Loadstar is automatically suspect.

Well, that doesn't appear to be a rule of thumb when it comes to productions from outside the States:

Burger Time '97 (Loadstar #162):

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Epsilon IV (Loadstar #114):

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Fast Ball (Loadstar #149):

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Frogs and Flies 64 (Loadstar #161):

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Mystery (Loadstar #164):

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Numm (Loadstar #142):

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All of the above are legit Loadstar releases. I think that the European developers were familiar with the "Loadstar" name, but not so much with the underlying company 🙂
 
Aaah that is interesting! I wonder if they were bought but never published? Or distributed with that copyright but were turned down by J&F? Or were sold standalone by J&F?
 
It could have been a separate group that used the name, that maybe had never even heard of Softdisk's Loadstar. The name is a reference to the standard C64 load command, it's possible that someone else came up with it too.

I don't think the theory of another Loadstar is plausible. I couldn't find any evidence for it, and a more likely explanation emerged after investigating this thing a bit.

Lost was supplied to F4CG by their member Maja, a well-known Polish games supplier. There's an indirect link between F4CG and Loadstar, and that's Cherry Software - a Swedish company run by a fellow known as Newsflash, his name was Per. I came across this comment about Cherry Software, made by Fungus:

You know Cherrysoft was in the business of getting games and selling them to Loadstar and other publishers, Cherrysoft was run by Per.
(...)
That kind of thing was going on a lot back then to get firsties. Maja quit the scene because Per didn't pay the coders of some games, and he took unreleased originals with him.

There's a very interesting note released by Cherry Software in 1996, called "Cherry vs. Scene": https://csdb.dk/release/?id=160566. In the note, Per confirms that the ranks of F4CG and Cherry Software were closely intertwined. Cherry Software handled their own business (trying to arrange sales), and F4CG would do their own (first-releasing cracks) in this weird relationship typical to the 1990s.

What I think might have happened is that Maja acted as a middleman between Polish game developers and Per, who would promise to sell their games to Loadstar in the USA. That would've seemed like a good option at the time - the commercial C64 market in Poland was dying and piracy was rampant, so any opportunity to make profit off their games in a foreign currency would've been tempting. In some cases, things wouldn't go as planned and those game, prepared by the developers for being released in Loadstar, would end up being "cracked" (by F4CG, of course) instead of being sold (*and* cracked by F4CG, obviously).

To figure out what exactly happened to the games that didn't make their way to Loadstar, it'd probably be necessary to reach out to their authors and ask for a first-hand account. I might do that someday 🙂 But first, I need to gather more information from various sources, I bet there's some relevant insight to be found in disk magazines from the 1990s.

Anyways, thank you guys for your help. I was hoping that those games might've seen the light of the day through some packaged standalone offerings from Softdisk/J&F Pub., and I'm sorry to hear that wasn't the case.
 
Aaah that is interesting! I wonder if they were bought but never published? Or distributed with that copyright but were turned down by J&F? Or were sold standalone by J&F?

They were all published in Loadstar magazine 🙂 In the brackets next to each title, there's a reference to the Loadstar issue number where each of these titles can be found.
 
Ah, that's useful!

Fender is still around, I could probably ask him if he has any insight into how the licensing worked.

That'd be great, thanks! I know of just one Polish title that successfully made its way to Loadstar, and that was Doris by Cybertech Laboratories (published in Loadstar #140). I read the associated notes in the magazine and learned that the deal was made through another company: Electric Brains Productions of the Netherlands.

There was another Polish game published in Loadstar #156: Diamenty. That looks like a shady case, unfortunately: it was originally made by Zenon Mikolajczyk in 1992, but someone named "Thomas Kucharczyk" from Sweden (which is odd, since Kucharczyk is a Polish name) claimed credit for the programming. Sadly, it wasn't uncommon to see people "borrowing" someone else's work for their own profit. Seeing Diamenty being called a Swedish game makes me wonder if Cherry Soft was behind the deal 😀
 
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